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What is God Doing?

Why is there such Misery and Destruction on the Earth? Doesn't God care what is happening to His people on the Earth?

For some time now, Christian religious leaders in the world have been asking questions that we should have answers to, yet we don't seem to have any. The fact that we do not have any answers seems to indicate that something is seriously wrong.

Something is not right when we have a God who is all loving, who is all powerful, who is not willing that anyone perish.

  1. For He shall give His angels charge over you, To keep you in all your ways.
  2. In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone. Psalms 91:11-12.

Yet there are people who are hurting in much more than just their feet! Why would God permit suffering in our world? If Jesus has already solved everything by dying on the cross for our sins, why does He allow things to continue? Does He not care what is happening to people as they die hard deaths of starvation and suffering?

In World War II, many people in Europe looked at this question when they saw the suffering, death, and total destruction of the war. They saw that war was pointless and that they could not come up with an answer as to why it was being allowed to happen.

The kinds of answers that kept rising to the surface was: God either does not care about what is happening on the earth; Or He is too weak of a God to do anything about it; Or possibly He does not exist at all!

What other answer is there? All the leaders of the Christian world could not come up with any answer that they wanted! They did not discover any other answer. Because of this fact, many people have determined that God either does not exist, or He is so weak that it doesn't matter if He exists or not. Of course, the theory of Evolution has picked up a lot of followers in this climate of uncertainty.

I think that the only answer that makes sense out of these questions concerning why God would permit suffering and death to occur, involves something that the Bible teaches, yet very few seem to know about it at all. Click on one of the links below.

The Bible teaches that there was a rebellion in Heaven. Satan chose to rebel against God and has brought the war to the earth! To win he must have the allegiance of all people on earth.

At the end of our world's history, Satan will pull all the stops in a desperate effort to have the entire world worship him instead of God.

What is Satan's strategy when he tempts people to follow him instead of God?

What does Satan need to have people do or say in order for him to claim them as his?

Why are the 10 commandments so important in our allegiance to God?


Difficult Bible Passages About why God Allows Suffering is Explained.

 

You ask why does God allow suffering on earth, does he not care? Then you say the answer lies in the Bible because there is/was a war in Heaven and Satan brought the war to earth. Do you see the fallacy in the whole thing. Its like turtles on turtles. Why would God (being all powerful etc.) allow suffering in Heaven. Why would he allow it anywhere? Maybe the answer lies not in celestial battles but in our own nature and nature itself. Science can try to explain a lot these days. Not celestial battles, though, unless it's battles between Suns, Planets and Black Holes.

 

You have a very interesting question. If indeed God is all-powerful, why would He permit anarchy and suffering?

What if God had offered all His creations (subjects) complete freedom. God could very easily force all His created beings into obeying Him. He is all powerful, He could do that. However, what if He really does value the free choice of His creations. How can God allow free choice if He forces all to obey Him? He cannot, God cannot do both. It does not make sense!

Even though God is all powerful, God cannot just zap people out of existence or to change their memory, etc. because that would go against His goal of having His creations with free choice. From the Bible, we see that it goes against what God's wishes to do. It would go against God's own value system because He is merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth (Exodus 34:6).

To say it another way: What if God wanted all His creations to worship Him by choice and not because He forces them to worship Him? How would He do that? Would He destroy all who would choose to go against Him before they are able to do so? Would He just change their thinking so they don't even know what they were thinking about earlier? Would He have created His creations so they could not have revolted against Him?

No, none of these options work. God Himself would know that He was not allowing complete free choice. If God really wanted His creations to actually love Him and appreciate what He does for them. He would have to work out this rebellion/sin problem right out in front of the whole universe, so that God's own created beings would be able to know for themselves, what God is like and they would be able to choose to really serve Him. They would want to serve Him!

When I read the Bible, I see evidence that God really does value free choice and freedom for His creations. We can see that in the stories of the Bible. We do not see God changing people's thoughts, but rather, we see that God works with us so that we can make a free choice.

  1. Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.
  1. For I, the LORD your God, will hold your right hand, Saying to you, ‘Fear not, I will help you.’ Isaiah 41:10,13.

On the other hand, it is Satan who forces others to follow and serve him. When people are possessed, they no longer have the will to leave Satan behind. Satan takes control of them and he will never let them go, not if he can help it. We also see that Satan tries to either trick or he will use fear to force people into serving Him. In addition, we find that when Satan cannot get a person to follow Him, he will want to try to kill them.

 

You make a good point. If I were God I would also allow my creation free choice. That is not in dispute for me. The problem with this free choice is that it is extremely unequally distributed. You just have to look around and you will see that not everyone has the "free choice" which God "intended" us to have.

I give an example: What if there are so many set-backs in your life that you give up hope and come to the conclusion that there is no point to your life (don't misinterpret, I am not suggesting I have those feelings to a higher degree). Albert Einstein wrote (I got this quote from a book given to me by a Jehovah's Witness): "The man who regards his life as meaningless is not merely unhappy but hardly fit for life". Do you see how true to human nature this statement is. According to Einstein these people do not deserve to live. Nature is like that. Survival of the fittest and forget about the weak. So my point is, its nature at work and not a loving God of the Bible who helps you (as long as you accept Him) like the stories in the Old Testament.

Then, having said all this, maybe we chose this path to come closer to God. Maybe (almost surely) it takes a lot of first-hand knowledge of good and evil in order to understand deeply the importance of love. Maybe it's the only way we can learn and not fall back into temptation?

You say God does not allow Satan to do anything He does not allow. How blessed we are! In Revelation's he does allow Satan to go very far. Or is what really is being said: He allows man to go very far before he puts a stop to it.

The Bible should not be taken too literally. Look at the people who die unnecessarily because they take the Bible literally. "You shall not eat blood" i.e. according to JW's that means no blood transfusions. Quite a few children of JW's have unnecessarily died because their parents took these Bible words literally. Just something to think about.

 

You are right, there are so many things in this world that are unfair. Sure enough, survival of the fittest does seem to reign supreme on this earth. Existence on this earth is sometimes pure survival. Some people try to get ahead in this world and they don't seem to have a chance.

I do not believe that laws like the survival of the fittest are what the Lord had in mind when He created the world and the Universe. I believe that they became law on this world when Adam and Eve fell into sin. Satan himself does not want people to have free choice at all. If people were to choose God instead of him, then Satan would loose out, as he will in the end.

A week ago, or so, I read the story on the judgment on the house of Jeroboam, found in I Kings 14. What happened is that the son of Jeroboam, king of Israel, a wicked king became sick. Jeroboam told his wife to disguise herself and go to Ahijah the prophet to ask him what will become of his son. There were other elements to the disguise, but of course, God told His prophet what was happening. When she came, he said: come in wife of Jeroboam, why do you pretend to be another person? Well, the prophet told her that because king Jeroboam, whom God had placed over Israel, did not follow God but acted wickedly, this king was extremely wicked; that disaster will strike his family. Every male member will see death.

Now the point that I want to make is this: This son who became sick, that originally caused Jeroboam's wife to see the prophet, was the only thing in Jeroboam's family that was good. So because this son was good, he was going to be the only one who would die a natural death. All the other members were going to have violent deaths.

This is what is said in 1 Kings 14:12-13.

  1. Arise therefore, go to your own house. When your feet enter the city, the child shall die.
  2. And all Israel shall mourn for him and bury him, for he is the only one of Jeroboam who shall come to the grave, because in him there is found something good toward the LORD God of Israel in the house of Jeroboam.

Here is a story that, on the outside, seems to indicate that this son had no chance at all. He had the wrong father, and so he had to die because all members of his family were to be killed. However, I believe that God will save that son when Jesus comes in the clouds of heaven to take back His people to be with Him. Apparently, that son had decided to follow God. He had that freedom of choice, and God is going to reward that choice when Jesus comes again.

So here is a story of a son who had the wrong father. It looks like he had the worst of luck and that he would never have a chance of doing anything ever again. However, if we look at this story from a different perspective, we find that it is the opposite of our original view of the story. That boy was allowed to die only after he had chosen to follow God. He had already exercised his free will to choose God. Now, the next moment that he will be aware of, when Jesus comes to collect His righteous people and take them to heaven, this boy will be among them. He has excercised his free will and God will reward that choice!

There are also places in the Bible where it says that God will cause some righteous people to have short lives. Now that can be seen as a bad thing, because nobody really wants to die. However, this is actually a good thing.

The first two verses are scripture examples showing that when the righteous die, God is being merciful to them, separating them from the evil of this world. They will be brought up again when all the evil is past.
  1. Help, LORD, for the godly man ceases For the faithful disappear from among the sons of men. Psalm 12:1
  1. The righteous perishes, And no man takes it to heart; Merciful men are taken away, While no one considers That the righteous is taken away from evil.
  2. He shall enter into peace; They shall rest in their beds, Each one walking in his uprightness. Isaiah 57:1-2

God wants to preserve His people from destruction. Sometimes the only way to do that is to have them die sooner than later. After all, the very next thing that the righteous people will see when they die is Jesus, when He comes to take all His people home with Him.

Life on this world is very short, usually under a hundred years. However, once this war is over between Jesus and Satan, all those who have chosen God will no longer be tempted and attacked by Satan, and they will be able to explore the whole universe for googles of years, and that is only the beginning ( 1 google is 1 x 10100 or 1 with a hundred zeros after it.)

Now, what happens to those who become discouraged? I remember that John the Baptist was discouraged and later he lost his head (he was killed). But I believe that He will be saved in spite of his discouragement.

Here is a verse showing that God treats a good man or a righteous man differently from the wicked when they fall. If a wicked man who is a evildoer, falls; God will cut them off. They will be no more. But we know that the meek will inherit the earth. If a good man falls for some reason, God will hold them up! He will not utterly cast them down!

  1. The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD, And He delights in his way.
  2. Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down; For the LORD upholds him with His hand. Psalm 37:23-24

I believe, that in spite of what looks like to us today as being totally unfair, I see that in the end, in spite of the fact that things are not fair today, that God will make things fair in the end. He will turn the tables. Even though Satan has caused total unfairness in this world, God will turn wrong into right judgement. He will judge fairly and with compassion to the righteous!

 

As a Christian I always wondered why God allowed Satan to exist after his rebellion. It makes no sense that a loving God would allow Satan to wreck havoc on his beloved creation - Mankind. I just don't believe it. Satan should have been destroyed immediately if God didn't have a greater purpose for him. God can end this war with Satan right now! Unless God doesn't have power or authority over Satan...that makes more sense. And God should make sense. I know it is in the Bible, but we all better hope that everything in the Bible is not true. It is important to focus on what matters in terms of our relationship with Jesus and our fellow man. I think it is appropriate that all Christians reject any doctrine in the Bible or otherwise that is not consistent with a loving God. The essence of the Bible is clear, but it is far from clear as to the many mysteries of human plight.

Why would God allow Satan (to have) dominion over the earth, unless God had a specific purpose for Satan. In that case, Satan was part of a master plan and (is) not responsible for God's orchestrations. It really is that simple...I heard a lot of scholars talk on this but they don't really make much sense. They preach free will as if that really answers such complex question of the creation of sin and who is responsible. And I felt guilty if I didn't believe it. It makes no sense and it speaks poorly to God's Character if he would allow a supernatural monster temp his weak creation. Who is going to win that battle? In this scenario, God appears weak unable to tame one of his experiments gone astray. And we are weak to temptation as we have proven time and time again .. it is our God given nature.

Satan has been successful in disrupting God's desire for mankind on every level in some degree. Why wouldn't this supernatural monster have an influence in what is in the Bible that would confuse God's loving character. Why is the Bible exempt, when God's precious creations are not...makes no sense. In the end the Saints win, but it comes at a high price...billions and billions of people going to eternal hell?

Consider this, God was so frustrated with his creation he destroyed every man, women and child in the great flood accept for Noah's family. All was not good. Not one child was worth saving, but God allows Satan to thrive in the tempting and destruction of mankind on a supernatural level? This myth has done more harm to God's credibility than anything and I refuse to believe it. Instead of leaving the faith because of superstition, Christians have to judge the Bible in the context of truth, not blind faith. Where ever there is man, Satan is in their midst. Trust me...he was there when the Bible was authored. What influence Satan had I can't say, but we do have 1000's of religions to add to the confusion. What do you think?

As a Christian, I would appreciate the circumstance more that God is at war with evil and that evil was not created by God, but existed from the beginning with God. He struggles as we do to end evil. God fights with us to destroy the supernatural forces of evil. It is okay with me that God is not perfect, but more important loving and wanting to protect us from the evil forces. And why wouldn't God struggle with evil. If Lucifer can rebel in heaven and seduce in heaven a third of the angels this is strong evidence that God struggles with evil even in his own Kingdom. Wow! Keep in mind we are not Gods and don't have the capabilities of Gods. As humans we were designed to fail. As a Christian, I don't know what it ultimately means in the end, I do hope and pray that God's Grace is greater than what has ever been said, and much greater than our imagination. My responsibility is to strive to behave as Jesus did... a God.

 

You ask why Satan has not attacked the Bible while he is attacking God's precious creations. The Bible has been severely attacked. During the dark ages, it was almost destroyed out of existence. People often had to read it under the pain of death. Satan has tried to destroy it and to keep people from reading it. Today, he is causing many to loose faith in the Bible by scientific arguments such as evolution and critical thinking.

But I believe that God has held His hand over the bible so that those who chose to seek God with all their heart will find them.

It seems like you are saying that God needs Satan, or that He has a specific purpose for Satan, (So that God's purpose will be fulfilled.) Or you are saying that God is not perfect. He is struggling with evil, meaning that He is weak and not able to overcome evil. So, in His love, He is trying to protect us from the evil that He is unable to destroy. You also suggest that maybe evil was present from the very beginning or that evil has always existed. You also suggest that man was designed to fall.

I was also interested in the fact that you would appreciate the circumstance more if God was really at war with evil and that evil was not created by God. But then you mention your doubt that God might not actually be fighting evil, that God is not perfect.

I believe what the Bible says. In Scripture, it is mentioned concerning Satan: "Till iniquity was found in you." That suggests to me that evil began with Satan. God did not create evil, it originated with Satan. Satan started to think evil thoughts! He started wanting power for himself.

Before sin began, there was no need for anything. Heaven was a happy place, where all living served God with their hearts in love.

However, when Satan began to accuse God and actually convinced 1/3 of the angels that he was right, that God was holding back blessing from them, that they could also be gods. It was at that point that Satan's continued existence was actually needed by God to show the results of sin. The angels who sided with God needed to know for themselves what Satan's kind of thinking would result in. So I think you are at least partially right. God needed Satan to play out his hand so that the remaining angels and the other worlds could see the actual results of sin. They would see to what extent of evil, Satan's way of thinking and doing would lead them if they chose to follow Satan's rebellion.

If 1/3 of the angels were convinced enough to take Satan's side, then what about the rest of heaven? Did they have questions? Did they almost follow Satan only to hold back for some reason? Were they afraid of God because they knew He was much more powerful? Did they still think that God was still loving? Did they believe that Satan could be partially right? Did they really believe that God would play fair and abide by the rules that He set up?

What about the other worlds. Did they have questions when this rebellion broke out at the very center of God's Kingdom?

How was God going to convince all the remaining angels and the worlds of the whole universe that what Satan said about God is not correct? And that Satan was only looking out for himself even if he had to destroy everybody else in the process.

In the book of Revelation, we see the things that Satan is going to do, wicked things to try to get his own way. Utter destruction or absolute demonic control of all the people on the earth! Also, near the end of the book, we see how God is going to do away with evil. Everyone in the rebellion, both human and evil angel, will be thrown into the fire that was made for them.

Yet we also see in Revelation, that the angels in heaven are praising God that He has finally judged and has taken the reigns and rules not only heaven but the earth. Satan is no longer the prince of the earth. They have seen that God is even fair with the wicked. We saw that very same thing in Jesus in the way He treated Judas. Jesus knew what Judas was going to do, yet He tried to reach him like the other of his followers.

So it seems that the book of Revelation predicts that the angels (and I am sure, the other worlds as well) will love God because of how He has handled everything. If God had killed Satan, after Satan had just accused God of being selfish, etc. It will have looked like: God killed the opposition and you better not think that way either or God will zap you too. There would have been a great fear of God. Not the fear that means respect and honor, but of fear fear. They would have been afraid of Him.

This kind of fear, the fear of having God zap you, would have been the breeding place for more rebellions in the future, or because they might be afraid of God: they would want to rebel against God if it were possible.

Because of this long battle against Satan, the fear of God (being afraid of God for what He might do to you) in the Universe will have been done away with because it will be seen that God's ways are really best. They will see that it really was Satan who was the destructive selfish one. The seeds of rebellion will have been fully destroyed. The survivors of the universe will realize the intensity of the evil that was in Satan and they will not want any part of it!

In the future, no one will want to rebel against God because they will know the results of rebellion against the love of God. But especially, they will realize that God really does love them. He loved the world so much that He gave His only begotten son! What better example of God's love for His creations could there ever be than the giving up of His only begotten Son so that we could be saved from certain death?

Only when we include the book of Revelation in our studies, only when we include the whole Bible, do all the pieces of the puzzle start fitting together. Yes, there are some things in the Bible that are hard to understand, but with a better understanding of the whole Bible as a unit, we will be able to see the forest for the trees; these problems become easier to understand.

Now, concerning "freedom of choice"; It makes no sense to say that God does not believe that "freedom of choice" is important. All one has to do is to look at the whole of the Bible. God is trying to woo us to love Him, to accept His grace and be saved from certain death.

God is not limited to just trying to convince people to follow Him. God is all powerful and He is well capable of creating a miracle that will make all of us become perfect Christians because He has willed or forced us to do that very thing.

God has not done that to us. He does not force Himself on us. Since He does not do that to us, we know that He has not done that to the angels or the other worlds either. On the other hand, we can see that Satan chooses all the time, when he is able to do it, to control people against their own will. Satan does not believe in the "freedom of choice" of his followers. Rather he believes in forcing them to do things against their will so that he (Satan) can get his own way.

Also, reading the book Revelation, it is clear that the angels in heaven, the elders, etc. are responding to what God is doing. They are praising God because of the relief and happiness that the awful wickedness is being done away with, that God is finally doing what He promised to do.

Now that Satan has shown his true intentions (as seen in Daniel and Revelation), is there any question in the minds of the angels and elders in heaven that the fruit of Satan's teachings results in having no "freedom of choice" for the subjects of Satan's kingdom? Satan ended up showing what he really wanted. He was selfish and was really into self glorification. If anyone gets in the way of his ambitions, Satan is willing and quite happy to destroy anyone, in the most cruel way, to get what he wants. He cares for nothing else. So, the angels and elders in heaven are happy with relief that the awful wickedness is finally being destroyed!

So, what do you think? I think we see a loving God who is caring for all His creations on all the billions and billions of worlds in the Universe and in heaven. He is making sure that the universe will be safe from the same type of wickedness in the future, because all angels and people will know where that type of thinking leads. It is really selfishness and it leads to wickedness, unhappiness, and the destruction of others for power etc. It is sin!

 

How can satan claim the earth when psalm 24:1 says the earth is the Lords? I see your point of issues raised in God's courts but I am confident that our mighty Lord Jesus settled all accounts at the cross. Jesus said it is finished. Satan has power but he's not omnipresent omnipotent omniscience. He can only do what God allows.

 

We should not confuse God's power with this legal process.

I have friends who I visited once (we all went to school together so it was great to talk). They had a new son and they were having problems. At night, he would often wake up screaming from a bad dream. It seemed that he had these dreams often and they were concerned but they did not know what to do about it. I asked them if they asked God to protect their son from the attacks of evil angels, and they shook their heads no. For some reason, they never even thought of asking God for help. I told them that if they did not pray for their son, that he would be open ground for the evil angels to attack him.

The boy is too young to pray for himself, so it is the privilege and duty for the parents to pray for their children.

They started praying for their son every night, and immediately, it all stopped. What a change! I think my friends gained a much deeper appreciation of the war that is going over us, but especially of the help and love that God has for each one of us. God is always willing and waiting for us to ask for help. When we come to God, we place ourselves under His care and protection. There is nothing that Satan and his evil angels can do except what God allows them to do. Never forget that!

In the story of Job, when Satan comes to the meeting, he accuses God of over stepping His bounds in protecting Job. "Job really does not care for you", he says; "he only likes your gifts". In response, Jesus then tells him what He will allow him to do to Job. That is what happened both times they met. Satan can only do what God allows him to do.

Yes, I agree with you that Jesus has all the power. The power that Satan has is what God allows him to have. No more than that. Boy are we blessed!

However, Something else seems to be happening because Jesus does allow Satan to temp and harass Job in trying to destroy him. That seems clear. Why does God allow Satan to try to destroy Job? Obviously, the war is still going on and Job's worship of God must be tested.

So why does God still allow Satan to try to destroy us today? If all accounts were settled at the cross, then why are we still here? Why are we still being tempted. Why is our faith still being tested?

I believe that if every thing had been done at the cross, then evil would have been destroyed at that time. If the battle was won at the cross, why was not Satan thrown out at that time? But it is not. God is still allowing Satan to destroy people. Evil is being propagated and today, conditions are getting worse not better. It should be obvious that everything was NOT finished at the cross.

You are right, God claims this world.

  1. I make a decree that in every dominion of my kingdom men must tremble and fear before the God of Daniel. For He is the living God, And steadfast forever; His kingdom is the one which shall not be destroyed, And His dominion shall endure to the end. Daniel 6:26.

If both God and Satan did not claim our world, there would be no war. But it is clear in Scripture that there is indeed a battle for our world. There is a battle for the mind and it is still going on. It is not finished yet.

Now, What about the fact that when Jesus was on the cross, He said "it is finished". Doesn't that mean that every thing was finished at the cross?

When Jesus died, He paid the ultimate price for me and you. However, that was not the only time that Jesus is going to say "it is finished"! I believe that the Cross was one big step in the process. But there are other steps that is indicated in Scripture. Look at the following Scripture:

  1. Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, "It is done!" Revelation 16:17.
  1. And He said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. Revelation 21:6.

Now notice what happens when the seventh angel sounds his trumpet! It is at that time and not before that the world becomes fully the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ!

  1. And he said, "Look, I am making known to you what shall happen in the latter time of the indignation; for at the appointed time the end shall be. Daniel 8:19.
  1. and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and the things that are in it, the earth and the things that are in it, and the sea and the things that are in it, that there should be delay no longer,
  2. but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets. Revelation 10:6-7.
  1. Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"
  2. And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, Revelation 11:15-16.

So when the seventh angel sounds, which is yet future! It is then, and only then, that God and His Son, Jesus will begin to reign over all the kingdoms of the earth! Satan will quickly loose all of his power to continue his torture of God's creations. God will at that time will begin to set things back to the way they should be, without sin and destruction. And the righteous will be taken up to be with Christ!

We must not forget the book of Revelation when we study what Jesus does for us to save us; Because, that last book of the Bible has so much of the information that we have of Jesus Christ! I think we only have a partial Gospel when we leave out what Revelation has to say. You know, the book of Revelation has a longer title: The Revelation of Jesus Christ.

  1. The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants--things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John,
  2. who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. Revelation 1:1-2.

 

The 5th question:

The presence of evil in the world is blamed on Satan. Christian (and Muslim) delusion about the existence of the devil is an excuse for God's inability or unwillingness to do anything about evil, misery, disease and poverty.

The following was written by the Greek Philosopher Epicurus:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; Or he can, but does not want to; If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. But, if God both can and wants to abolish evil, then how come evil is in the world?

 

You have questions that on the surface, appear not to have an answer. These questions make it appear that God is not what He says He is. The only possible answers these questions allow are that He is either malevolent, or not omnipotent, or He is even evil Himself! These questions do not allow any other possibility.

However, the reason why there does not seem to be any good answer, is that you are basing your questions on specific assumptions about God. Assumptions that can be wrong.

No matter what position we take, we must start with assumptions. In science, assumptions are used all the time. They are understood and used so that the scientific method can proceed.

On the other hand, from how I have heard theologians speak to people, they either are not fully aware of the assumptions they are making or they are "pulling the wool" over the eyes of the public. (Actually, I have heard scientists do the same thing.) They act as if there are no assumptions to make to arrive at their opinions.

These are the assumptions that they think are our only options:

  1. God is all powerful. He can do anything He wants to do because there is no one to stop Him. He is all Powerful!
  2. God is not all powerful. There is evil in the world but He is unable to stop it.

With these types of limited assumptions, we can explain God only in certain allowable ways. The assumptions limit our answers!

  1. If God wants to abolish evil, but cannot, he is impotent.
  2. If He can abolish evil, but does not want to, He is wicked.
  3. But, if God wants to abolish evil and He actually can abolish evil, then how come evil is in the world?

So, are wicked or impotent, the only posibilities we have to describe God? Are these the only possible reasons for the evil that is in the world?

When no other possibilities are entertained, we have no satisfactory answer at all. I believe this kind of thinking has caused many people to reject God.

But what they have done is to forget about the other answer that is actually in the Bible! The Bible does not have these hopeless ideas as the only options we have to choose from.

The other possible assumption is that God is all powerful and righteous but that He has also limited His actions because He values the free will of His creations. To do away with free will would be wicked in of itself. God would be a "control freak" just like Satan is if He were to literally force His creations against their wills.

We must always remember that it is Satan who will try to control you no matter what you actually want to do. If Satan cannot control you, he will then try to kill you!

So, if God were going to try to do away with evil by forcing His own creations against their own will; God would be doing an evil to His own creations by His very actions. Just because God is more powerful, does not make what He does right!

What God does, must be above reproach. So God has placed upon Himself constraints. He will have to solve the problem of Satan and his rebellion without doing either evil.

The Bible gives us the clue that God will abolish evil but it will take some time. Read Revelation 19. It specifically describes how God will destroy Satan and all His followers. Before this could occur; However, a heavenly court had to convene that would judge those who are evil. All those who have caused evil to start in Heaven and to cause it to spread to the earth will be judged. Also, all those who of our world who have chosen Satan as their leader will also be judged.)

In the book of Daniel, he speaks of this court as happening at the end of the world. It is at that time that Satan's dominion will be taken away from Satan and given over to Jesus:

  1. A fiery stream issued And came forth from before Him. A thousand thousands ministered to Him; Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him. The court was seated, And the books were opened. Daniel 7:10
  1. "I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him.
  2. Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, Which shall not pass away, And His kingdom the one Which shall not be destroyed. Daniel 7:13-14.
  1. until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom. Daniel 7:22
  1. But the court shall be seated, And they shall take away his [Satan's] dominion, To consume and destroy it forever. Daniel 7:26

So, the court in heaven will open and Jesus will be brought in before God, the Ancient of Days, and dominion and glory and a kingdom will be given over the Jesus at that time. In the process Satan's dominion will be taken away from him to be consumed and destroyed.

Also judgment will be made in favor of the saints of the Most High. All this is yet to happen!

In Revelation, this happens at the time when the seventh angel sounds the seventh trumpet:

  1. And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
  2. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
  3. Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
  4. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Revelation 11:15-18

Before this court session, the earth was not part of the kingdom of God. Not in the strictest sense. Even Jesus said several times that Satan was the ruler of this world. Only when the court meets does Jesus receive the Kingdom.

Also, in looking at these two places in Scripture, we can see that God is making all His decisions while being before the people of His Kingdom. Nothing is being hidden. Thus, God is actually making Himself open and transparent to the created beings that He Himself has made. He is allowing them to judge Him in this process.

God will win this battle against Satan and He will have all His creation agreeing with what He has done. Not because they have to or are forced to to agree with God but because they actually see such love in their Creator that they want to give thanks to Him because He has finally done what He said He will do.

 

The 6th question:

You say that God is powerful and fair, then why doesn't He end war peacefully by making a new world and let Satan have that and let anyone who wishes to follow him go? would there be a problem with this?

 

I am not sure that I know the real or complete answer to this question. We will learn so much of what the real issues are when we begin living with Jesus, but I will try to answer your question:

I believe that the fair thing in Satan's case is to destroy him because he has destroyed untold trillions and trillions of people through the ages of time (to say nothing of the fallen angels who are now lost and will also have to be completely destroyed). In addition, Satan hates God and would, if he could, pull Him down from the throne of the Universe. The threat and the presence of that hatred and determination, just having that hatred in the Universe, I am sure, will not be tolerated by God in the ceaseless ages of eternity.

How can there be true happiness, how can all tears cease if sin is allowed to continue???

We are promised that all sorrow will be done away with. All tears will cease and there will be true happiness because all sin, its hatred and the heartache, will be done away with. All sinful things will be completely destroyed! This includes Satan and all his followers, whether human or fallen angel; Because they have become like the one they follow.

  1. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 1 Peter 5:8
  1. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. John 8:44

This war is not just a war between two sides. It is a war where Satan, who has become the father of evil, uses all kinds of evil methods against all who might oppose him. Let's remind ourselves what he will do to the people of God at the end of the world:

  1. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time. Revelation 12:12
  2. it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. Daniel 7:7
  3. he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. Revelation 12:13
  4. And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 12:17
  5. and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. Revelation 13:15
  6. It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. Revelation 13:7
  7. yet for many days they shall fall by sword and flame, by captivity and plundering. Daniel 11:33
  8. He. . . shall persecute the saints of the Most High, Daniel 7:25
  9. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time. Daniel 7:25
  10. (It) was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, Daniel 7:21
  11. it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished. Daniel 12:7

It is true, Satan is a murderer and the father of evil. He will use any kind of evil to anyone who might oppose him!

So, the wicked will be completely destroyed, as described in the Bible to bring happiness back into the Universe that God has created.

  1. The LORD preserves all who love Him, But all the wicked He will destroy. Psalm 145:20.
  1. For evildoers shall be cut off; But those who wait on the LORD, They shall inherit the earth.
  2. For yet a little while and the wicked shall be no more; Indeed, you will look carefully for his place, But it shall be no more.
  3. But the meek shall inherit the earth, And shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
  1. But the wicked shall perish; And the enemies of the LORD, Like the splendor of the meadows, shall vanish. Into smoke they shall vanish away. Psalm 37: 9-11, 20.
  1. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together; The future of the wicked shall be cut off. Psalm 37: 9-11, 20, 38.
  1. May sinners be consumed from the earth, And the wicked be no more. Bless the LORD, O my soul! Praise the LORD! Psalm 104:35.
  1. Behold, they shall be as stubble, The fire shall burn them; They shall not deliver themselves From the power of the flame; It shall not be a coal to be warmed by, Nor a fire to sit before! Isaiah 47:14.
  1. For behold, the day is coming, Burning like an oven, And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up, Says the LORD of hosts, That will leave them neither root nor branch.
  2. But to you who fear My name The Sun of Righteousness shall arise With healing in His wings; And you shall go out And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
  3. You shall trample the wicked, For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet On the day that I do this, Says the LORD of hosts. Malachi 4:1-3.

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