If you have not read the first page on Jesus and His nature, please click on The Nature of Christ and the Trinity or on the icon at the top of the page.

There are others, like me, who do not believe in the trinity. However, many of them are also saying that Jesus is just a created being and not Divine from the beginning. They believe that God the Father first created Jesus who then created everything else in the created Universe. Is that what happened? Is that what the Bible teaches?

Who is Jesus? Does the Bible say Jesus is created? We will look to the Bible for answers on this page

Colossians 1:15 is sometimes used, by some, to say that Jesus was just the first born in the creation process; That God created Jesus, then Jesus created everything else.

15. Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Colossians 1:15 KJV

However with this meaning, Colossians 1 then does not even make sense with itself. Here is the verse in the NKJV which gives it a different meaning:

15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
17. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. Colossians 1:15-17. NKJV

In verse 16, it says that all things were created by Jesus. This would mean that Jesus Himself is not created because He certainly did not create Himself!

The three statements in verses 16 and 17 are these: All things were created by Him. All things were created through Him and for Him. In Him all things consist. Paul also says that Jesus existed before all things!

So if Jesus existed before all things that were created, then we know that when it says all things were created by Jesus, we then must understand that Jesus had a special part to play in the creation of all things.

John also explicitly spells out who created all things, but John goes one step further, he also says that nothing else was ever created!

3. All things were made through Him [Jesus], and without Him nothing was made that was made. John 1:3

Because of what John 1:3 says, we can now say the same things as before but with added assurance, because John not only says that all things were made by Jesus, but John then says that there was nothing made that He did not have a part in making.

Is there anything in these Scripture which say that God first created Jesus, then Jesus created everything else? No, it does not! Jesus did not create everything else. He created all things and without Him nothing was made that was made! So, there is nothing that was created that Jesus did not have a part in creating.

God the Father did not create Jesus because John 1:3 says that nothing was made that was made without Jesus!

Now, let us again look at Colossians 1:15 with verses 16 and 17:

15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
17. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. Colossians 1:15-17. NKJV

The idea that Jesus could be the first created being, in verse 15, just does not fit with the thought in verse 16. Does this make sense? Jesus was the first to be created because all things were created by Him. No, the two thoughts clash. How can Jesus be the first to be created when all things were created by Him!

But now, does this make much better sense? Jesus rules over all creation because all things were created by Him. Yes, it does make better sense! Verse 16 answers why the statement in verse 15 is true: Now why is it that Jesus rules over all creation? It is because all things were created by Him.

So, within the context of verses 16 and 17, Jesus is the image of the invisible God, He is the firstborn over all creation because He is the one who created everything. He is over creation, He is not part of the creation.

There are many translations of the Bible that say Jesus was firstborn over all creation, probably because of the context of verses 16 and 17.

The idea that God created Jesus just does not agree with the Bible. Jesus was not created by God because all things were made through Jesus and there was nothing made that He didn't have a part in making.

So, if Jesus was not created, and yet we understand He had a beginning, we must ask the question: Where did Jesus come from?

The answer is hinted at in probably the most well known verse in the Bible:

16. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

If Jesus was begotten, then it should be obvious that He has a beginning. But John 3:16 does not stop with that thought, it goes far beyond.

In Titus 1:2, we find that it is "God, who cannot lie". In Hebrews 6:18 as well, we find that "it is impossible for God to lie". So, If God says He has a Son, His own only begotten Son, and God says He loves us so much that He is willing to give us His only begotten Son to us, the Son that is so dear to Him, that whoever believes in His Son will be saved and live forever; What is God really saying?

God is saying that He really does have a Son, He is not lying. God cannot lie! It is His only begotten Son. That part has to be a given. In addition, God describes His love by that very same gift; It is the gift of His only begotten Son, to us, which shows that God really does love us. That must also be a given and His Son is our evidence of His love!

The very central core of God's message, to us, demands that God has a very dear Son, His only begotten Son; The only one that has come out of God. It also demands that He gives Him, to us, that we may be saved and live with the both of them for eternity.

12. "Then speak to him, saying, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, saying: "Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH! From His place He shall branch out, And He shall build the temple of the LORD;
13. Yes, He shall build the temple of the LORD. He shall bear the glory, And shall sit and rule on His throne; So He shall be a priest on His throne, And the counsel of peace shall be between them both."' Zechariah 6:12-13

Most everybody agrees that "The BRANCH" is the Son of God. God and His Son will sit and rule. Notice the last part of verse 13: "And the counsel of peace shall be between them both". The original for "both" is the Hebrew plural for exactly two; Not three or more, but a pair! There is no room for a trinity in this Scripture. Only the Father and His Only begotten Son.

4. Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son's name, If you know? Proverbs 30:4

Jesus, the Son of God, was brought forth from the Father. They experienced a special delight together in creating all things.

22. "The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.
23. I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth.
24. When there were no depths I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water.
25. Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills, I was brought forth;
26. While as yet He had not made the earth or the fields, Or the primeval dust of the world.
27. When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He drew a circle on the face of the deep,
28. When He established the clouds above, When He strengthened the fountains of the deep,
29. When He assigned to the sea its limit, So that the waters would not transgress His command, When He marked out the foundations of the earth,
30. Then I was beside Him as a master craftsman; And I was daily His delight, Rejoicing always before Him, Proverbs 8:22-30

In Ephesians, we see that this team effort is called the fellowship of the mystery. It is something that is hidden in God the way all things were created. All we have is the description in Proverbs above.

9. and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; Ephesians 3:9

We will look more into the Sonship of Jesus, but first we need to clear up a small issue. Because there are other sons of God.

The angels in heaven are created by God (Hebrews 1:7), yet they are also called the sons of God:

7. When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:7

Adam, the first man, was created on the sixth day of creation on earth (Genesis 1:26-27). He was made out of the created dust of the ground, unlike Jesus who came out of God. Yet, Adam is also called the son of God:

38. the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God. Luke 3:38

Now, in spite of the fact that we have sinned against God, we can also be a son of God through adoption:

14. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
15. For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father." Romans 8:14-15

So there are many sons of God. We can say that Adam and the angels are sons of God because they were created. We can also say that we are sons of God because we are adopted into God's family.

Yet with all these sons of God, we find that there is something special about Jesus. He is called the only begotten Son of God. So He is the only one that came from God Himself.

The angels in heaven are not even included in this sentence. Jesus is the only one! He is the only one that is actually born from God!

9. In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 1 John 4:9

Some say that Jesus is called begotten because He was born on earth. However, it is clear from these texts that Jesus already was begotten before He came to the earth as a man! God gave us something that He already had and His love for us was shown in that act of giving.

This is not some esoteric point in Scripture, This is the central issue God makes with us in the Bible! God loved us so much that He gave us His most prized possession. It was His only begotten Son that He gave us. So Jesus, the actual Son of God, is the central pillar of God's message. Since God does not lie we must accept as fact that Jesus is the actual Son of God and that God gave Him to us because He loves us!

God uses His Son to show the intensity of His love and Jesus is the object that shows the extent of His love. He is our evidence of God's love.

18. No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. John 1:18

There is a closeness and a bond found nowhere else. Jesus is God's own "flesh and blood" except they are not composed of flesh.

What I am trying to say is that Jesus is the Son of God by birth. Jesus came forth out of God! This is not a creative act but it is a birthing process. So now Jesus lives in the bosom of His Father.

26. "In that day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I shall pray the Father for you;
27. "for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth from God.
28. "I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father." John 16:26-28

The phrase "came forth" is translated from the Greek word: ("exerchomai" Strongs # 3778) which means to "issued forth" or to have "issued from". Jesus issued forth from the Father. In the next verse, "proceeded forth" also comes from the same Greek word.

The next Scripture is very interesting. In verse 41, the leaders decided to push their point by saying that they were not illegitimate like Jesus was. Thus they were saying Jesus was Illegitimate!

In reponse, Jesus expanded His message by telling them where He actually came from. So, Jesus told them that He was not illegitimate at all. He proceeded forth from God! Christ told them: If God were their father, they would love Him because He came out of the Father, and He came from God, who sent Him into the world.

Jesus was speaking very plainly, telling them where He came from, yet it was as if they had not heard Him:

41. "You do the deeds of your father." Then they said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father--God."
42. Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.
43. "Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. John 8:42-43

Jesus said He came forth from God when He was accused of being illegitimate. So it is clear that Jesus was speaking of His original birth from the Creator. Jesus is not illegitimate!

In this and the next Scripture we find that Jesus spoke of two different events. 1) He proceeded forth or He came forth from God and, 2) He came into the world (God sent Him).

The text is not just a fancy way to describe His coming to the earth twice. But rather, Jesus was saying that He proceeded forth from God and He also came from God who sent Him to the earth.

7. "Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You.
8. "For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. John 17:7-8

Christ's followers knew that Jesus came forth from God and they also believed that God had sent Him to the earth.

Since He was the only begotten Son of God, Jesus was actually composed out of the "stuff" of God! He was in the form of God!

5. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6. who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, Philippians 2:5-6

Jesus came forth from His Father in the form of God. So Jesus is equal with His Father.

17. But Jesus answered them, "My Father has been working until now, and I have been working."
18. Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. John 5:17-18.

I see no evidence anywhere in the Bible that to be the only begotten Son is the same as being created. But rather we have found that Jesus is the Son of God because He came forth from the Father. He is in the form of God and except for coming from His Father, He is equal with Him.

1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1.

In John 1:1 we see that in the beginning was the Word (which is Jesus), and Jesus was with God. But the last part is a little strange. If we look at the original Greek we find that "God" is actually the object and "the Word" is the Subject.

Greek is more rigid in its word order than English. In Greek the object is always placed first in the sentence before the subject. The subject is placed last. So, in the last part of John 1:1 in Greek, it reads like this: "God was the Word". This means that "God" is the object and "Word" is the subject.

In English, the word order can go either way. However, if you, the reader, did not know that the subject was actually placed first in such a simple sentence, you would never know it. It can be misleading in English because there is no reason for it. In addition, reversing the word order can change our understanding of what is meant.

So, let us look at the sentence the way it was first written. It might be a more accurate way of saying John 1:1:

1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with [the] God, and God was the Word. John 1:1.

In John 1:1, John describes two separate individuals, God and the Word. In his description, he says that the Word was with God. Now, the last part of the verse cannot be saying that Jesus is the God because John has already said that Jesus was with the God!

So, John must be saying that Jesus is in the form of God or that He is Divine like the Father. The change in the word-order suggests this very thing. John is not saying that the Word was the God; But instead, he is saying "God was the Word" or "Divine was the Word". So, Jesus is in the form of God! This idea easily matches with the next text:

Jesus is in the form of God:

5. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6. who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, Philippians 2:5-6

Jesus is in the form of God and is equal with God. So, saying that "Jesus was with God" and "Divine was the Word" would make a lot of sense.

8. Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
9. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; Colossians 2:8-9.

We can see that Jesus is not created because He is in the form of God. The fullness of the Godhead, which is divinity or deity, dwells in Christ. Jesus is the Son of God.

So it should not surprise us that Jesus is Divine, or that He is in the form of God and thus equal with God, because of His inheritance:

4. having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Hebrews 1:4

As the Son of the self-existent God, He has by nature all the attributes of Deity.

Jesus has become so much better than the angels because He has obtained a more excellent name then they by inheritance. He has to the same name as the Father because of His inheritance. I am reminded of, in the book of Exodus, where the Angel of God actually has God's name in Him:

20. Behold, I send an Angel before you to keep you in the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared.
21. Beware of Him and obey His voice; do not provoke Him, for He will not pardon your transgressions; for My name is in Him. Exodus 23:20-21

This Angel has God's name. He has the name of Jehovah or Yahweh (YHWH) because God's name is in Him. How could He obtain God's name?

Paul gives us a clue by telling us who this Angel is:

1. Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea,
2. all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,
3. all ate the same spiritual food,
4. and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 1 Corinthians 10:1-4.

It is Jesus who possess the name of God because He is the only begotten Son of God's bosom! He has acquired God's name by inheritance because He came forth out of God the Father.

4. having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Hebrews 1:4

It is by inheritance that Jesus has a more excellent name than the angels. Now to worship a creature would be basphemy:

6. But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all the angels of God worship Him." Hebrews 1:4-6

But it must be remembered that at the very beginning of Hebrews we find that God created the worlds through Christ. The Father appointed His Son to be the active agent in the creation process and He appointed His Son as heir of all things:

2. has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; Hebrews 1:2

God also desired that the fullness of His Divinity be in Him:

19. For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, Colossians 1:19

In addition, Jesus was granted to have life in Himself just like the Father:

26. "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, John 5:26

Jesus has life in Himself just like the Father, who has life in Himself. All because it pleased the Father that in Him, all the fullness should dwell in Him. So, Jesus possesses by nature all the attributes of Divinity or Deity.

This mention of having life in themselves is more than saying they are living. They both possess the fullness of the Godhead, meaning they are fully divine, and they exist on their own. So they are not made out of created atoms that are dependant on some other source like we are. Moment by moment, we exist because energy flows from the throne of God to sustain us. But both the Father and Son are entirely Divine.

Jesus is the heir of all things and through Him all things were created. All this is because He is the Son of God. He proceeded forth from God and is in the form of God. He clearly is not created, but He is equal with God and He has life in Him because it pleased the Father that He be that way.

Often we will speak of a son who looks like his dad and we might call him the "spitting image" of His father. In the Bible, special mention is made of Jesus in respect to His Father:

15. He [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Colossians 1:15

Yes, Jesus is the image of the invisible God, His Father! In Genesis, Moses speaks of both the Father and Son as having the same image:

26. Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." Genesis 1:26

In the next verse we find that this Special Son of God is virtually identical to His Father. Everything about Him speaks of His inheritance of a divine nature because He is like His Father:

3. who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, Hebrews 1:3

Jesus is the brightness of His Father's glory, the express image of His Father's person, and the word of His Father's power. He has been appointed heir of all things and after He purged our sins, He sat down at the right hand of His Father on high.

Jesus is the Son of God not because He was elevated to that level, but it is His right. Moses was faithful in all the house of God, as a servant, but Christ, was a Son over His own house because He is the Son of God:

3. For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house.
4. For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God.
5. And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward,
6. but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end. Hebrews 3:3-6

Thus, Jesus is a Son over His own house:

Some time ago, Lucifer attacked the house of God! There was war in Heaven!

7. And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,
8. but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. Revelation 12:7-8 New King James Version

In this war, Lucifer, who is now called Satan, attacked God saying that He wanted to rule like the Most High.

12. How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!
13. For you have said in your heart: I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north;
14. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.
15. Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol (hell), To the lowest depths of the Pit. Isaiah 14:12-15 NKJV

So, Satan the great dragon became jealous. When Satan says: "I will be like the Most High"; It almost sounds like Satan wanted to take the place of Jesus. Because, Jesus is the one who is like the Most High!

5. . . . Christ Jesus,
6. who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, Philippians 2:5-6

Jesus is equal with God and He is in the form of God. He is the express image of God's person, the brightness of His glory!

3. who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, Hebrews 1:3

That is exactly what Satan wanted to be. He was jealous of Jesus!

Satan and his evil angels actually started a war in heaven! This is an amazing thing when we consider that neither Satan nor his wicked angels are able to create nor are they able to fight on an equal par against God nor Jesus the Son.

10. But the LORD is the true God; He is the living God and the everlasting King. At His wrath the earth will tremble, And the nations will not be able to endure His indignation.
11. Thus you shall say to them: "The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens."
12. He has made the earth by His power, He has established the world by His wisdom, And has stretched out the heavens at His discretion. Jeremiah 10:10-12.

However, the demons very quickly became aware, if they didn't know already, that they could not match God's power nor His wisdom:

34. saying, "Let us alone! What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Did You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!" Luke 4:34

They knew exactly who Jesus was, He is the Holy One of God; The Son of God!

29. And suddenly they cried out, saying, "What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?" Matthew 8:29

The demons know that their time is coming and it is very obvious from their responses that they tremble over the thought of the final judgement.

Is there a basic underlying reason why Satan could not take the place of Jesus? If there is, then the Universe would need to know why. If the answer involves the nature of Christ, then the Universe would need to know about it.

It is clear that Satan and the demons were too weak to takeover Heaven. In addition we now find that the demons tremble at the thought of God:

19. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:19.

Is this the reason why Satan cannot take the place of Jesus, because he is too weak?

That might be part of the answer, but God, at some time, needed to show why Jesus had His position because it was His right to posses it.

So, in response to the attack on the House of God, The Father began to make it very clear what it was about Jesus that made Him different than all other beings. It is true that all other beings were created and Jesus was begotten. But why does that make a difference?

When God created mankind, He made them in the image of God. It is not just the form of man that reflects God's form. But as we start looking at the parallels between Adam and Eve against The Father and His Son; we start seeing that there is a lot more to our image than just our form. The way Adam and Eve were created and the positions they held are all significant and important. Even the discovery of loneliness can be seen as a clarification of the attributes of God.

So, what God did was to create man in his own world and the earth became a microcosm of the universe.

1. In this world, Adam was made in the image of God and he was put in the same position on earth that God has in heaven. Adam was to rule over all the earth just as God rules over the universe.
26. Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." Genesis 1:26

(As a result of man's fall, Satan had obtained authority over the whole earth!)

31. "Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.
32. "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself." John 12:31-32

 

2. While Adam did not create all things, He did name all things. Thus there is an ownership that helped set up Adam as ruler over all the earth.
19. From the ground God formed all the animals of the field and all the birds of the sky, and He brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that became its name.
20. And the man gave names to all the tame animals, and to the birds of the sky, and to all the wild animals. . . . Genesis 2:19-20 (part) Brown Bible

 

3. God then directed Adam's attention to the fact that each animal had a mate. He did this by creating the animals before Adams eyes. Each animal was created as a pair, a male and female. Yet Adam was alone. There was no helpmate for him. Adam was made to realize his need for someone like himself. So before Adam was given a mate, he was made to realize that He was lonely.

I think that the concept of being lonely was introduced to Adam and also to the Universe. Because of the way God did it, it is obviously a planed introduction that made the answer to loneliness understandable and good.

Was God telling the Universe that He could also be lonely?

18. Then the Lord God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a suitable helper who is like him."
19. From the ground God formed all the animals of the field and all the birds of the sky, and He brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that became its name.
20. And the man gave names to all the tame animals, and to the birds of the sky, and to all the wild animals, But Adam noticed that there was no helper that was like him.
21. So the Lord God caused the man to sleep very deeply, and while he slept, God removed one of his ribs, then closed up the place with flesh.
22. The Lord God then used the rib from the man and built and formed it into a woman, and then he brought her to the man.
23. And the man said: "finally, this is someone whose bones came from my bones, whose body came from my body. I will call her 'woman', because she was taken out of man," Genesis 2:18-23 Brown Bible

 

4. In addition to the idea of loneliness, God had Adam realize that the presence of the animals did not solve the absence of an equal companion for him. Adam would be lonely even in the presence of all the animals. This relates to the situation in heaven; Even in the presence of all the angels and the beings of other worlds; Could God the Father have been lonely without the presence of the Son of God?

20. But Adam noticed that there was no helper that was like him. Genesis 2:20 (Part)

30. Then I was beside Him as a master craftsman; And I was daily His delight, Rejoicing always before Him, Proverbs 8:30

 

5. The Two had to have the very same nature in order to fully appreciate each other. Without that special companionship, what does it matter if you are surrounded by beautiful scenes and delightful work. The garden of eden would not have provided any happiness to either Adam nor Eve without the other. There would be no one to love and be loved! No one to talk over their happiness of their surroundings and of each other. Having a dog would not have made it fully enjoyable!

Is it possible that the Universe might not provide any happiness to God nor His Son without the other? When God expresses Himself concerning His Son in this way: "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Matthew 3:17 Does it show from God a special sense of love or devotion?

22. "The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.
23. I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth.
24. When there were no depths I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water.
25. Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills, I was brought forth;
26. While as yet He had not made the earth or the fields, Or the primeval dust of the world.
27. When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He drew a circle on the face of the deep,
28. When He established the clouds above, When He strengthened the fountains of the deep,
29. When He assigned to the sea its limit, So that the waters would not transgress His command, When He marked out the foundations of the earth,
30. Then I was beside Him as a master craftsman; And I was daily His delight, Rejoicing always before Him, Proverbs 8:22-30
9. and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; Ephesians 3:9

In the same way that animals cannot understand or even appreciate the complex thoughts that we often exchange between each other; God and His Son must interact in ways that go far beyond our understanding of complexity and closeness.

 

6. God made Eve from a part of Adam, representing the non-created "begotten-ness" aspect of Christ. So Just as Eve came from Adam, The Son of God came from God the Father without being created. Jesus is not a created being, very different from us created beings. Eve is also special since she is made from the rib of Adam. She is made from the stuff that made Adam just as the Son of God is made of the stuff of God. Thus the Son has the same nature as the Father. They are both divine.
4. having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Hebrews 1:4
1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and (God was the Word).
2. He was in the beginning with God.
3. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
4. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. John 1:1-4.
5. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6. who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, Philippians 2:5-6

 

7. Eve was equal to Adam in every respect, except for patriarchy, thus Adam and Eve are a model or an example of what the Father and the Son are in the Universe.

The Son is equal to the Father in every respect, except for the fact that the Father alone is God and that the Son came out of the Father.

15. . . . He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
16. who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen. 1 Timothy 6:15-16

 

8. While Eve was equal to Adam in every respect except for patriarchy, there is one other area where Eve was different. The sexes are different. In today's world, females are the physically weaker sex. Eve was most likely weaker than Adam.

Jesus said many times, when He was on earth, that His Father was greater than He is. Many suppose that Jesus was speaking of His experience as a man. However, it is possible that the Father is greater because of patriarchy. Only the Father is the ancient of days and He alone has immortality.

3. But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Corinthians 11:3
29. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. John 10:29
28. "You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I. John 14:28

 

9. God made two of them, Adam and Eve. Not three. We do not have a three-fold union like a Trinity. We have a two-fold union, husband and wife. This represents God the Father and His Son.
6. yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. 1 Corinthians 8:6

 

God revealed something about Himself when He created mankind. The fact that animals can not share with us the complex ideas we have concerning love, feelings, creative acts, and taking part in human-level activities; show us that Adam needed Eve to fully experience the type of interactions he needed to be happy. The same can be said for Eve. Eve needed Adam and Adam needed Eve. Eve was the only one that was able to fully interact with Adam.

If we are in a place, all by our selves, with just a dog or some other animal, it gets old very fast. We can talk to it but we cannot get the same satisfaction we get from talking to an equal. Someone who thinks and talks like we do.

In the same way, there is some indication in the Bible that God the Father needs His only begotten Son in the same way that Adam needed Eve. With the two of them, they can fully share in each other's company. Jesus, the Son of God, was and is the only one who can fully take part in the creative process of making worlds with God His Father.

22. "The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.
23. I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth.
24. When there were no depths I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water.
25. Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills, I was brought forth;
26. While as yet He had not made the earth or the fields, Or the primeval dust of the world.
27. When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He drew a circle on the face of the deep,
28. When He established the clouds above, When He strengthened the fountains of the deep,
29. When He assigned to the sea its limit, So that the waters would not transgress His command, When He marked out the foundations of the earth,
30. Then I was beside Him as a master craftsman; And I was daily His delight, Rejoicing always before Him, Proverbs 8:22-30

In Proverbs 8, it is easy to see that this very personal joint participation, between God and the Son of God in the creative process, is a delightful association that causes a rejoicing between the Two. The fellowship of the mystery could mean that it is a hidden thing of fellowship or association that is not obvious to our understanding.

9. and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; Ephesians 3:9

Something special must happen between Them when They create things. Evidently the Father and His Son are able to share in this process of designing and building things to such a level of satisfaction and depth that no created being is able to experience or share.

From Proverbs 8, we can see that they took extreme pleasure in creating things. This work of creating must be a great delight to God. In addition, we can see that God takes extreme pleasure in having a companion that He can share His whole experience with, someone who knows as He knows.

When we look at the things that God has made, we are actually looking at the very heart and soul of God. Delight and rejoicing are heard when They are together creating things. Throughout scripture we can see glimpses that God enjoyed what He did. Just look at the language that God Himself uses when He created this world:

31. "And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Genesis 1:31.

If we read the whole first chapter we can see that He says this repeatedly. They are creating things together and they obviously enjoy commenting to each other about the joys that they find in the world they had just created. Also, when we read in between the lines in Colossions we can begin to see additional reasons why God creates:

16. "For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him." Colossians 1:16.

God makes things for Himself. This is a clue that God literally enjoys His creations. He made them so He could enjoy them.

Now, why is it that Satan cannot share in the things of God while Jesus is fully allowed to interact with His Father.

This is now a simple thing to answer: Satan is not able to understand the things of God nor can he create things. He is not able to work or to even understand the hidden things of God. Satan is only a created being. He is completely unable to take part in the Divine activities of the Father and Son just like animals who are unable to completely take part in the human activities on earth.

10. But the LORD is the true God; He is the living God and the everlasting King. At His wrath the earth will tremble, And the nations will not be able to endure His indignation.
11. Thus you shall say to them: "The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens."
12. He has made the earth by His power, He has established the world by His wisdom, And has stretched out the heavens at His discretion. Jeremiah 10:10-12.

These verses easily show that Satan and his evil angels are not able to create nor are they able to fight against God. They are completely unable to take part in the Divine activities of the Father and Son. They are not equals with God and His Son at all.

We, as humans are in the same condition. The intricacies of God's creations are beyond our understanding. We don't even know what matter is, which is the basic created stuff that we are made out of. We are created beings and we are limited in our abilities. None of us can begin to understand or even think of sharing in this process of creating as God creates.

Long ago Lucifer wanted to be included in the creation process. God, however, did not invite him to help with the creation of this world. In this situation God probably had to tell him that he had nothing to contribute. Lucifer was limited in his abilities just as we are limited in the things of God. He could not create but he so blinded himself with jealousy against Jesus that he just would not listen.

When Satan rebelled against God, The other angels of heaven must have been in danger of thinking that Satan could be right, that it was an injustice against Satan to be denied while Jesus was allowed to have the supremacy.

However, with the creation of man, God was able to teach the universe who Jesus really is. Jesus the Son of God, was and is the only one who can fully take part in the creative process of making worlds with that of God because He is fully divine like His Father.

Long before Jesus came to this earth Isaiah spoke these words:

6. For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

The Hebrew word for "wonderful" (Strong index number is 6382) means incomprehensible, beyond our understanding, or wonderful.

So Jesus' name is wonderful, it is incomprehensible and beyond our understanding. He is the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father and the Prince of Peace.

In many places in the Bible, Jesus is actually called God. He is called the Jehovah God!

1. The Mighty One, God the LORD [Jehovah], Has spoken and called the earth From the rising of the sun to its going down.
2. Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God will shine forth.
3. Our God shall come, and shall not keep silent; A fire shall devour before Him, And it shall be very tempestuous all around Him.
4. He shall call to the heavens from above, And to the earth, that He may judge His people:
5. "Gather My saints together to Me, Those who have made a covenant with Me by sacrifice."
6. Let the heavens declare His righteousness, For God Himself is Judge. Selah Psalm 50:1-6

We know this passage refers to Christ because all judgment has been committed to the Son:

18. And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Matthew 28:18

So, no one can come to the Father except through Jesus Christ!

6. Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. John 14:6

The second reason why we can know that Psalm 50:1-6 refers to Christ is because it is describing the 2nd coming of Christ where Jesus will send His angels to gether together His elect from the four winds.

5. "Gather My saints together to Me, Those who have made a covenant with Me by sacrifice." Psalm 50:5

In Psalm 50, it is the mighty God, God the LORD that calls the saints together. But in Matthew, Jesus is the one to have the saints gathered together. This is obviously the same event and in Psalm 50, Jesus is called LORD or Jehovah.

31. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:31

1. Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 Thessalonians 2:1

Jesus the Lord, will descend from heaven:

16. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 1 Thessalonians 2:1

But in Psalm 50:3, it is described in what manner Jesus will appear in the last days:

3. Our God shall come, and shall not keep silent; A fire shall devour before Him, And it shall be very tempestuous all around Him. Psalm 50:3

Paul describes the same flaming tempestuous fire when Jesus comes because He is there to judge the people of the world. Remember, Jesus has been given all powers of judgement!

8. in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Thessalonians 1:8

So we know that the LORD (Jehovah) described in Psalm 50:1-6, is a vivid description of the second coming of Christ for the salvation of His people. When He comes it will be as "the mighty God."

In Psalm 45 God's throne will last forever and ever:

6. Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. Psalm 45:6

But it is in Hebrews, that we find out the particulars of who is speaking and what the event actually was. It is the Father who is speaking! God is addressing His Son and He calls Him God before all the angels in heaven. God Himself has called His Son God!

8. But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom. Hebrews 1:8

The Father has given Jesus His authority in both heaven and earth:

29. And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Matthew 28:18

In the next verse we see that not only all authority has been given to Jesus, but that all things have been delivered to Him as well by the Father.

27. "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Matthew 11:27

So, It should not surprise us that God has appointed His Son to be heir of all things and He has placed everything in His hands.

6. God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
7. has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; Hebrews 1:1-2.

God also said that Jesus will have His throne which will stand forever and ever!

8. But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom. Hebrews 1:8 (Quoting Psalm 45:6)

We see in the book of Revelation that there are two thrones that will be in heaven and later on the earth!

21. "To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. Revelation 3:21.

In the world made new, the throne of God and of the Lamb will be the source of life!

1. And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. Revelation 22:1.

There will be no curse and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in that place.

3. And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. Revelation 22:3.

There is no evidence at all that there is a third throne for the Holy Spirit. There are only two thrones in that place not three. The Holy Spirit is not even mentioned in these verses or anywhere else in the world made new!

22. But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
23. The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light. Revelation 21:22-23

Because there is no longer any sin there is no need for a temple but we are assured that the pressence of God and the Lamb are its temple. The light from God and the Lamb will illuminate the city.

12. "Then speak to him, saying, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, saying: "Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH! From His place He shall branch out, And He shall build the temple of the LORD;
13. Yes, He shall build the temple of the LORD. He shall bear the glory, And shall sit and rule on His throne; So He shall be a priest on His throne, And the counsel of peace shall be between them both."' Zechariah 6:12-13

As we have already seen before, that the counsel of peace will be between both Jesus and the Father; However, when Jesus delivers the kingdom to His Father, it is the Father who will rule over all things and Jesus will rule under Him.

24. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25. For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
26. Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28

When God put everything into Christ's hand, it turns out that the Father was excepted. The Son will always be subject to the Father because it was He who had put all things under Jesus.